Kev,

Debating with the Clown is an exercise in futility. Doublespeak at the highest level.

In naming all of those wins by Ghostzapper, there is no mention of any of the figures that the horse earned in those races. Why? Because if he did, he would realize that GZ has run the two fastest figures every on T-Graph and a few others in the top 20.

So for the purposes of this debate, figures are irrelevant. However, you can find many other Clown posts with statements like "Jerry is the best on 3 year olds", "You have to defer to Thorograph", etc.etc.

I would lay 2-1 that Clown hasn't purchased a Thorograph in the past 6 months, which is his prerogative, but then don't make the misleading comments.

GZ is very fast on the figures. On this, Jerry, Beyer and Rags all agree. The horse has been dominant from 7 furlongs to 1 1/4. What else can he do? Now Frankel and Stronach want to run on grass.

The fact that they are going with a light campaign again this year is not because they are ducking competition. Frankel says every chance he gets that he is a sheets user and as such, he believes that horses run their best when fresh. He has been right with Ghostzapper.

I don't like Frankel and I am sure many others would share that opinion, but the fact is that GZ is something special.

That doesn't mean he can't lose tomorrow though. If you can get 2-1 on Forest Danger, I think it might be worth a shot to beat GZ. Off the paired -4.5, getting 5 pounds, with GZ possibly not fully cranked, there is probably a decent gamble at that price.

I don't think you get it though. 3-5 on GZ, 8-5 on Forest Danger.