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Re: ROTW and Turf Rebuttal Rebuttal (424 Views)
Posted by: Chuckles_the_Clown2 (IP Logged)
Date: July 17, 2005 03:11PM

NoCarolinaTony Wrote:
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> Ctc,
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> You pick select day's or races to prove your
> point. I can do the same to prove you wrong.
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> I'd say there is value in turf racing.
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> This particlar point of view doesn't hold water.
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> NC Tony
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Tony, the Belmont day was picked by Richie. I don't bet Turf unless its MSW or surface switch. I tried to state why. My theory is that with generally so few turf races on a card the performance figures are not as grooved. (N.Y. runs a lot of turf races this time of year though.) The grass keeps the soil beneath from visually changing, but weather impacts the grass course significantly. As a consequence of generally so few turf races its much harder to get a handle on the variant. Add traffic, trouble and generally more subtle pace swings to the mix and its just not sufficiently reliable for me. Generally what you see in turf racing is which low odds favorite got the best trip or the occasional race Richie pointed to at Elmont yesterday. (Though there were three...lol) He's right though, sometimes you get winners that make little sense on turf and that in my opinion is related to the inability to more precisely calculate variants which impact the final figure. Its just more of a crapshoot in my opinion and I also believe the animals are generally weaker there. Though theres the occasional Giant's Causeway or Dubai Millenium sure.

If you follow racing at Longchamps or The Curragh thats entirely different. The turf racing is consistent and the courses cater to it. This is America however. We race dirt here. Turf events here are merely a token to breeders and handicappers that like their racing on grass. I handicap turf...on Breeders Cup day.



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