The board is regressing quickly here. Back to the La Derby AGAIN and "Are racehorses getting faster".

Millennium3,

Two things.

1. It does matter what figure that Saint Liam gets. 95% of the people on this board probably agree that Dutrow cheats. But we still need to know that with cheating, his horse can run a negative 6, because until they clean up the game, this unfortunately has to be part of the handicapping equation.

2. Come on, let the La Derby drop. There was an opportunity in the 6 weeks after that race to treat it as a "negative key race" and if you scored out, based on that, congratulations. Vicarage was an obvious bet against. I have to tell you, jerry was not the only one at Saratoga that hit that race. Basically everybody at the discussion group (except me), hit the race, tossing Vicarage. (I was stupid enough to structure my bets such that Middle Earth had to be in the number........)


Anybody got any views on Saratoga today? Looks like a lousy card.

In the 3rd race, I like elusive toga, despite the presence of Santos. He is maybe a point slower than the pletcher stretchout, but should be saving ground on the lead. Ferraro is not a name trainer, but is 52% to pair up or run a new top, the first time he runs a horse. 6-1 is a good price, in my mind.

In the 7th, I like Gryffindor. He is freshened up for Voss, and his two best races were both at the Spa. His two starts earlier this year were disappointing, but I think he can bet back to his top now, which would make him tough. Need a trip from the 8 slot, but I like him at 6-1 or better. Have to use Dave and Confidence Man behind him, trying to avoid MiketheMoonDog, who is a little slow on T-Graph.