TGJB Wrote:
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> CTC-- I deleted those posts because they were
> obnoxious and had no other content. Knock it off.
> And knock off the unnecessary obnoxious
> charaterizations, even if there is content on the
> post. It annoys me, it annoys others, and I'm
> going to be deleting the posts when I see them.
> The whole posts.
>

Jerry, maybe I have been over-animated over it. I am genuinely excited about this Derby. Nothing unusal, I always get excited about the Derby. But, I'm not the one changing my mind on this. Andy Beyer is, and he's changing it after I point out that he's got a problem. It's not me saying "Wow Beyer waffled again" after he makes the correction. I'm saying he got it wrong and then he "corrects". It's tantamount to the fan writing the coach and saying "Depite all your game film and scouts and coordinators you blew it coach." and the coach admitting he did blow it. Different scenario entirely from saying "The coach lost that game, with no commentary from the coach".

Now, some of those guys second guessing the Coach could have out coached the coach. Just being in the Coaches seat doesn't mean the coach can coach well in the big games. Wood Day is a big game and when a coach can't win the big one its time for a new coach. Its why I don't use Beyers. I now use the one you think is flawed but I modify them with some of your considerations and some others I won't belabor here.

As far as comparing Beyer to Parcells all I can say is "What has Parcells done lately?" From my perspective he's been living off his Giant's reputation. I wouldn't hire him now and I don't use Beyer. The game has left them both.

I understand not wanting to discuss proprietary data. Thats fine, no issue thats exclusively your call. With luck we'll find out after the fact anyway and if I'm wrong I'll say so. That was a fast Wood. The track was slow and they ran very fast early. Maybe miff needs to know when a single two turn race is on the card it can lead to some very odd results due to lack of uniformity respecting each of the two turns. Miff's position is "Slow Wood, Bob and John has been slow, however, he may hit the board anyway." My position is "He's fast and he'll be there with a pair. Leave him out at your peril."

Its hard enough to pick the winner of the Derby with accurate 9-pole figures. Start fudging those figures up and you may as well throw darts blindfolded. Thats why I'm animated and irked. Despite the yucks, this aint the Circus.