What about the original point of disagreement; do you think it is important to add in the performance of the jockeys to the numbers when handicapping a horse race? In the end, the answer is of course no, as supply and demand always puts the proper value on everything. But in the end, we will all be dead. As for now, with all of the figures and info out there, you better be able to determine the CURRENT value of the different jockeys. You need to be aware of the breeding angles, the trainer angles, and different track conditions. These factors are constantly changing, and the handicappers who are able to judge the value of each at their current levels will make money. Who knows, maybe Bailey right now is the best bet in all of sports? The average guy will look at his 1.6 ROI and say he is a human money grinding machine. But how about tomorrow? Will he get up tomorrow and be so focused, so much more intense than the rest, that he actually adds value? Maybe. Will Prado gain so much confidence in his rail skimming turf rides that he starts to dominate many of the turf races? Maybe. Is JJerkens training his horses better than anybody right now? Maybe. Is Henning? Maybe. Will the Sar track favor speed tomorrow? Maybe. I do not pretend to have the anwsers to all of these questions, but I guarantee you one thing; the guy who has the most answers to these types of questions will make the most money, because he will have the sheets AND all of this info. So I will end my commentary by saying this: try to factor everything in as you see it today, because we will all be long gone by the time everything averages out.