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Re: Belmont 9/15 (832 Views)
Posted by: TGJB (IP Logged)
Date: September 23, 2002 09:16PM

HE'S BAAACK...
Unfair? UNFAIR??
First of all, the most important part of your post concerns insults, and probably explains both your absence and (relatively) good mood.
Where I come from, "objective" means objective, and "resilience" is a physical phenomenom. You and I and everyone informed enough to follow this conversation know that Ragozin doesn't use objective criteria any more than we do, or measure resilience(y), and that Friedman's use of the terms is marketing aimed at those who don't know better. Even in practice they don't mean "observable", they mean observed-- see my story about the two Belmont grass courses (5/2/00), for one example. Or, "observed and understood"--the rail last B.C. day, and the change of track speed that day, were examples
of events they observed but did not understand, at least within the confines of their dogma.
The first major downybrook (and Michael wasn't even involved!) on this site concerned the 00 Wood Memorial (the 5/2/00 post was a response to David Patent),and Friedman at that time said they tied that race (only 2 turn race on the card)to the rest of the card, despite rain, sealing and unsealing of the track, and having to give out numbers they never would have given had they cut the race loose. I will guarantee you they did not do that 9/15 at Belmont, so the question is, on what basis (objective criteria) did they make that decision? That is why I brought this up, and it's a fair question.
Overall, excellent dialogue between you guys, and I'm proud to say I can't imagine anywhere else it could have taken place.



TGJB



Subject Written By Posted
Belmont 9/15 (1579 Views) TGJB 09/20/2002 02:12PM
Re: Belmont 9/15 (867 Views) Jerry Jr. 09/20/2002 04:18PM
Re: Belmont 9/15 (792 Views) TGJB 09/20/2002 05:00PM
Re: Belmont 9/15 (839 Views) HP 09/20/2002 05:18PM
Re: Belmont 9/15 (855 Views) TGJB 09/20/2002 05:46PM
Re: Belmont 9/15 (891 Views) HP 09/20/2002 05:57PM
Re: Belmont 9/15 (881 Views) David Patent 09/20/2002 07:25PM
Re: Belmont 9/15 (877 Views) TGJB 09/20/2002 07:29PM
Re: Belmont 9/15 (893 Views) Jurmala Berzins 09/21/2002 03:26AM
Re: Belmont 9/15 (1031 Views) David G. Patent 09/21/2002 04:32PM
Correction and Request (809 Views) David G. Patent 09/21/2002 04:34PM
Re: Correction and Request (960 Views) TGJB 09/21/2002 09:23PM
Re: Correction and Request (829 Views) David G. Patent 09/21/2002 10:04PM
Deviations (879 Views) Catalin 09/22/2002 12:10AM
Re: Deviations (916 Views) TGJB 09/22/2002 05:32PM
Re: Deviations (784 Views) Catalin 09/22/2002 10:36PM
Re: Deviations (851 Views) thomas 09/23/2002 12:51AM
Re: Deviations (845 Views) Alydar in California 09/23/2002 08:55AM
Re: Deviations (942 Views) Alydar in California 09/22/2002 10:09PM
Re: Belmont 9/15 (875 Views) mike holbert 09/21/2002 05:17PM
Re: Belmont 9/15 (828 Views) Jerry Jr. 09/20/2002 08:49PM
Re: Belmont 9/15 (805 Views) Alydar in California 09/23/2002 09:19AM
Re: Belmont 9/15 (832 Views) TGJB 09/23/2002 09:16PM
Re: Belmont 9/15 (910 Views) Alydar in California 09/24/2002 07:39AM
Re: Belmont 9/15 (858 Views) TGJB 09/24/2002 05:17PM
Re: Belmont 9/15 (843 Views) Alydar in California 09/24/2002 06:30PM
Re: Belmont 9/15 (839 Views) TGJB 09/24/2002 07:19PM
Re: Belmont 9/15 (858 Views) Alydar in California 09/25/2002 09:51AM
Re: Belmont 9/15 (819 Views) TGJB 09/25/2002 05:28PM


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