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Re: Breaking through tops (824 Views)
Posted by: Silver Charm (IP Logged)
Date: January 16, 2003 02:24PM


I can't resist adding my two cents which may be all of what I'm about to say is worth.

Over the last couple of years at Gulfstream it seems that with 3-YO the bounce angle has been more of a bust angle. As in you will go busted expecting a good three old to bounce. There was a catch there because I said good 3-YO. Something not entirely obvious when the meet begins.

Let me give you an example from two years ago. A horse with only one previous start (strictly a gallop him around job with Patti Cooksey aboard--trust me that true) runs third in a November maiden race at CD and receives a 13. In January, this same horse comes back at Gulfstream in a seven furlong maiden race and romps by six lengths and receives a 7. He is now wheeled back on two weeks rest in a very tough 1X allowance race going 1 mile 1/16. He should bounce correct? He does'nt he runs a 3. He then is run back on three weeks rest in a Grade I. Should he be played to bounce?

Next example, a horse with about ten races under his belt and a previous lifetime top of a 9 is entered in a 1X and receives a 1 after winning by ten lengths. He runs back in a $500,000.00 Stake and wins again receiving another 1. He is run back on four weeks rest in a Grade I. Should he be played to bounce?

The answer in both examples is NO.
Example one is Monarchos and he came back to win the Florida Derby with a 0.
Example two is War Emblem and he came back to win the Ky Derby with a 0.



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