Interesting, you're the only one around here making a line so early! "A" for effort.

I don't get IWR as the fav. and Pioneer at 10-1? Pioneer will be about 4 or 5-1 and Quality Road way lower than 9-2 - how about 2-1 or even 9-5? you'll probably get at least 6 or 7-1 on IWR - remember, Mullins will be scrutinized even more on derby day - no air power or anything else sneaky and Pioneer manhandeled him every time they ever met. That wood was like a nw/2 allowance race though the effort was eye-catching. Young Talamo with 19 other horses is a nightmare waiting to happen! Believe me I watch him ride every day. The scary thing is how cocky he is - direct ratio to how bad a rider he is!

You have no line on my [b]sleeper[/b] - [i]Mr. Hot Stuff[/i] (talk about nightmare jockeys -- I get C-Nak!)- I was hoping for about 15 or 20-1 which I will take. 70-1?! Are you kidding me?

But if Quality Road runs his race, they can't beat him - that's a big "IF" though. I usually way off on derbies, you should hear the list of "champions" I supported - oh, man. I need a 20-1 score to be even for the last 10 years!