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Re: Another Sub-6 Fig 2yo bites the Derby trail dust (1355 Views)
Posted by: derby1592 (IP Logged)
Date: April 10, 2002 12:36AM

HP,

Just a point of clarification:

As 2yos, Grindstone ran an 11.5 relatively early in the year, Pegasus ran a 6.5 relatively late in the year, Charismatic an 11.75 and Monarchos several 15s. The guidelines are between 6 and 12 as 2yos. All but Monarchos fit nicely. He jumped up early in his 3yo year and ran several fast races in a row before falling apart after the Derby.

Of course, I use this only as a guideline and certainly take into account the odds and how fast the horse is relative to the field. This particular guideline is really much more useful for the future book since it can steer you away from suspect horses that are likely to be the early favorites (e.g., Siphonic and Repent). Once the 3yo lines are established, the value of this guideline is greatly diminished although the stress of rapid, early 2yo development on the fast 2yos and the stress of rapid "catch up" 3yo development on the slow 2yos could still have a residual effect that may show up in the Derby (which is probably the most stressful race in which these horses will ever compete). So I would not ignore it. I would lean toward a horse that showed some development at 2 (but not too much) and continued to develop nicely at 3.

Just one piece of the Derby handicapping puzzle for a race that looks pretty wide open to me at this point.

Chris



Subject Written By Posted
Repent - He's Out (2298 Views) Ian Meyers 04/08/2002 02:07PM
Re: Repent - He's Out (1304 Views) kevin s 04/08/2002 02:35PM
Re: Repent - He's Out (1368 Views) Treadhead 04/08/2002 03:39PM
Re: Repent - He's Out (1263 Views) fastspeed 04/08/2002 04:15PM
Another Sub-6 Fig 2yo bites the Derby trail dust (1300 Views) derby1592 04/08/2002 10:49PM
Re: Another Sub-6 Fig 2yo bites the Derby trail dust (1385 Views) HP 04/09/2002 09:23AM
Re: Another Sub-6 Fig 2yo bites the Derby trail dust (1467 Views) kevin s 04/09/2002 11:37AM
Re: Another Sub-6 Fig 2yo bites the Derby trail dust (1355 Views) derby1592 04/10/2002 12:36AM
Re: Another Sub-6 Fig 2yo bites the Derby trail dust (1385 Views) HP 04/10/2002 08:53AM
Re: Another Sub-6 Fig 2yo bites the Derby trail dust (1381 Views) TGJB 04/10/2002 01:08PM
Re: Another Sub-6 Fig 2yo bites the Derby trail dust (1500 Views) fastspeed 04/09/2002 02:02PM
Re: Another Sub-6 Fig 2yo bites the Derby trail dust (1341 Views) HP 04/09/2002 02:41PM
Your Short list (1319 Views) derby1592 04/10/2002 12:45AM
Re: Your Short list (1327 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/10/2002 08:13AM
Re: Your Short list (1352 Views) Treadhead 04/10/2002 09:37AM
Re: Your Short list (1297 Views) fastspeed 04/10/2002 10:18AM
Re: Your Short list (1365 Views) HP 04/10/2002 10:36AM
Re: Your Short list (1327 Views) kevin s 04/10/2002 11:43AM
Re: Your Short list (1425 Views) TGJB 04/10/2002 01:13PM
Re: Your Short list (1352 Views) Excitable Boy 04/10/2002 01:58PM
Re: Your Short list (1316 Views) kevin s 04/10/2002 06:09PM
Re: Your Short list (1318 Views) HP 04/11/2002 09:00AM
By golly your right (1356 Views) derby1592 04/10/2002 10:26PM


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