Marc--

I'm hoping not to spend too much time on here today, but we'll see.

1-- HP said he he had worked for me, about a year ago (?)on this board, because I asked him to, which in turn was because Alydar raised the issue when I mentioned it to him in an e-mail when he was feuding with HP. It is meaningless stuff EXCEPT if someone testifies factually, or VOUCHES for something or someone. When Howard Dennis said Ragozin outsold us 10-1, along with a lot of other crap, it was EXTREMELY relevant. When Florida Jim (Brant, etc.) "testified" about certain goings on in Florida, his relationship with Charlie Nebel, and Charlie's history, were very relevant, whether Brant was employed by Ragozin or not.

2-- On the "hair splitting", then why bring it up in the context of this discussion?

3-- Read what you just wrote-- you have INFORMATION about Ragozin employees, and "credible" ALLEGATIONS about TG employees. Give me a break, will you? I have put the Ragozin bad behavior out there where they can have a chance to refute it, and offered you the chance to do the same with my dastardly acts. My lawyer, you also might recall, sent a transcript of conversations taped by a private investigator, to Ragozin. In it he caught two Ragozin employees, ONE OF WHOM WORKED IN AND WAS SPEAKING FROM RAGOZIN'S OFFICE, lying about TG. We made this public, so Ragozin and Friedman had a chance to refute it. Do you remember hearing them do so?

4--"I can't wait to see how many more there are out there..."

You are a real cutie-pie. I've made it clear why, except in certain cases, the issue is irrelevant. Why not taking on that argument, instead of "sliming" me?

5-- When I walked in an hour ago, there were NINE NEW posts attacking me directly on the Rag board, ones that were not there last night. My point was the unbelievable hypocrisy of Friedman's post-- the attacks on me there run at least 10-1 to the posts attacking them here. On top of that, I said several times there that if they would delete the attacks I would have no reason to respond and protect my interests. He did not, and the attacks continued, BECAUSE HE WANTS THEM TO. Get it?

And are you seriously going to posit that the Rag operation is so confused they think I am posting attacking myself so that I can respond to it, then would take the responses down but leave up my attacks on myself, and think that I would continue to do it knowing only the attacks would stand? How many times did you read Catch 22?

Silver Charm is COMPLETELY different than the jerks who attack me on the Ragozin board. You know why? BECAUSE HE ORIGINALLY ATTACKED FRIEDMAN ON THE MERITS, NOT PERSONALLY. Do you remember when Silver Charm began posting? He was at the track the day Chilukki debuted, saw the varied track maintenance and weather, and asked Friedman (along with yours truly) how he came up with a figure. Len took a stab at an answer, got his head torn off when it became instantly clear he didn't have the slightest idea what he was talking about ("Friedman Fires Smoking Gun, Shoots Foot", 2/4/03 this site, in the archives), and ran for cover. Silver Charm had every right to go after him on character after that display. Certain Rag guys, on the other hand, ARE sickos and toadies, because they NEVER fight it out on the merits, and always use ad hominem attacks. They outnumber SC maybe 15-1, and as I have said, are ENCOURAGED by Friedman, in that he doesn't take them down, but DOES TAKE DOWN THE REPLIES, giving them a free shot. Get it?



TGJB