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Re: Another Frankel Debacle (496 Views)
Posted by: Dana (IP Logged)
Date: October 28, 2003 04:45PM

can't anybody just say what's on their minds and come out with it! so bobby juices his horses with some unknown substance that they don't test for any other day (on any other track) but breeder's cup day, so hence he's 2 for 57 -- give me a break.

"campbreeze" makes a lot of sense to me; here are a few more thoughts

on sightseek- how anyone could believe she ran neg 3's is beyond me -- she was no way better than any other filly & mare in that race -- they were all sub par -- elloluv is not a mile 1/8 horse, got koko ran against a tremendous speed bias, take charge lady was inexplicably not sent by the jockey -- maybe she was over the top, but sightseek's numbers were so fake -- beating up on small fields in ny in no way equals negative numbers -- what they always said about azeri last year applied to sightseek in a big way. she'd be a good allowance horse in cali. neg. 3's -- yeah right.i almost believed that.

aldebaren- ran against a huge speed bias; he had no shot ever in that race -- a race that's too short for him in the first place.

midas eyes was in no way ready

heat haze, tates creek and megahertz are all mediocre horses -- they raced against inferior competition (mostly each other) all year long -- compare their races with islington's against the top males in europe -- please. dublino was the only decent filly from the west before she fell apart -- that division was so weak. i should say i think heat haze is a decent filly but she's not effective at longer distances

peace rules also ran against inferior competition when he ran on turf (his 2 year old season) and in no way did i expect him to run anyweher near those dirt numbers on grass

medalghia d'oro ran a very good race -- if congaree wasn't in it he would have won for FUN!

some of you all need to get over it -- frankel's got 10,000 horses and owners who let him do anything he wants; he can pick and choose his spots and freshen his horses up -- plus he's sharp as hell knowing what his horses are capable of; but 20 other trainers would have his success if they were in his shoes; the starting line is in no way equal for him; hey, he worked long and hard to get to his place, so i don't begrudge him -- i just refuse to believe without proof that he's allowed to "get away with something" the rest of the year and not on bc day.




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