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Re: Upstart Vaults From Jim Dandy to Amory's Race, It Says Here (890 Views)
Posted by: TGJB (IP Logged)
Date: July 31, 2015 12:00PM
I'm letting some batting practice fastballs go here because we have a seminar up... but unless you (Ring) are taking the position Materiality ran the same in his next two as in the Fla Derby there's no reason to think his Fla Derby figure should be worse. What, everybody got it wrong 6 points, 20 on Beyer?
With 20 lengths to third and Materiality and Upstart running poorly after, it's far more likely that was a big one that cooked at least one of them (the one with little foundation, as discussed in the Derby seminar), and hopefully just one of them. Materiality not making a short field in the Jim Dandy certainly backs up this idea.
As for someone's comment about 1 1/8th, that's effin hilarious. You want to take a position a horse can't get a distance he hasn't tried yet okay, that's at least a conversation, if you do more than just make an assertion. But to claim a horse can't get a distance he's already run his top at is just nonsense, whatever happens Sunday.
There are questions concerning Upstart-- what happened in Ky, did the big Fla races cook him, how tight he is off a layoff, can he ship and run his race (hasn't yet in two tries). But not the ones being asked here.
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