Rich,

I was well aware of the other 12 furlong race. I bet the race and watched it. (and handicapped it on this board, the day before)

I am not going to advertise another product here, but I get pace figures for all the races on the NY circuit.

The Moss stuff is easy to pull off the internet.

I have two figures, one average and one below par.

We have already gone on about the pace of this race enough. You really want to call Saturday a fast pace and explain the result that way, feel free to do it. it's a free country.

As for bob's posts. I am giving up. Kent, a hall of fame jockey, doesn't understand that the pace for a 1 1/2 mile race is different, nor do the guys that make figures on the track. How can I argue with that?

I think the race Saturday is one of the easiest to assess after the fact that you will EVER see in a Triple Crown race. The favorite fired too many fast ones in a short period of time and didn't fire Saturday. The awful result may have been exacerbated by a dislike for the track, but that certainly wasn't the reason he lost. The pace gave all horses in the race a shot to win. A closer won, stalkers finished in the 2nd and 4th slots and another closer was 3rd. The track was very fast on Saturday and the presence of a rabbit had about zero impact on the race, as he wasn't a rabbit. No major jockey screwups worth complaining about. Sure, Kent had the favorite 4 wide for no reason, but he was so empty it didn't matter. One could argue Javier moved a bit soon to press down the backside, but as somebody who badly needed Destin, I can't say it was a bad move. Irad gave a brilliant ride.

time to move on.

Jim