Re: Always Dreaming (1207 Views)
Posted by:
T Severini (IP Logged)
Date: May 09, 2017 07:29AM
jimbo66 Wrote:
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> First off, congrats to Furious Pete and a few
> others that liked Always Dreaming. Personally,
> couldn't have been more wrong about the race.
> Hated Always Dreaming and loved Practical Joke and
> Irish War Cry. The latter was horrendous and the
> former was just OK (got a ride I could not have
> expected from post 19 - in a good way, and still
> was relatively empty).
Its so hard for me to correct my insights after a run on a surface like that. Rather, having a 3 run horse second and a 6 horse run third the inclination is to ask how did the surface allow them to place like that? Furthermore the number of Negative Number horses was winnowed down this year and some had reasons to not run their race and horses like Lookin at Lee looked to improve too.
>
> Despite Treadhead and Jerry apparently not
> noticing, the rail was iron for almost the two
> full days. And as is the case with iron rails,
> speed was really good as well.
By the 12th on Saturday it was the place to be.
>
> That said, hard to say how much that helped AD as
> he set a "plus" pace, put away a horse up front
> that wasn't any good (stately honor), then put
> away the fastest horse in the race (Irish War Cry)
> and was drawing away in the stretch. While speed
> and the rail were good, the visual on the derby
> wasn't one of a bias win. Bias aided wins look
> like Big World and Benner Island on Friday and
> CAviar Czar on Saturday. Where the front runner
> looks like they will be swallowed on the turn and
> through most of the stretch but they miraculously
> "keep finding".
>
> This horse was extremely good, bias or not. I,
> for one, am not salivating to bet against (or on)
> him in 2 weeks in the Preakness. Part of that is
> that exactly who ran well enough yesterday to give
> a mulligan to? Maybe Classic Empire, off a
> terrible trip? Not lookin at lee, who never left
> a gold rail (great ride).
>
> TGJB, as for the figure. there were 8 lengths
> between the winner and the third place finisher.
> I can't imagine this is going to be a slow figure.
> Or a backwards move as JP702006 suggests. What,
> every horse then X'ed? Literally every one.
>
> How about another view. The Bluegrass being as
> fast as TG had it, meant a couple of key things.
> It meant McCracken was sitting on a nice forward
> move, perhaps the most likely horse to run well,
> it meant Practical Joke had a forward moving line
> with moderate steps and looked great as well.
> Well, make the Bluegrass two points slower, which
> is not out of line, all of a sudden McCracken and
> Practical Joke are both moving backwards, not
> forwards, Classic Empire still hasn't gotten to
> his 2 year old top and with Irish War Cry sitting
> on a possible bounce, all the "fast horses" maybe
> don't run. (which happened.)
Add to that a 12th race surface punishing certain running styles and rewarding others.
> Not sour grapes, just a thought.
Now the barn is calling him the second coming of Sliced Bread, but what about the Super Saver Derby? Always Dreaming certainly ran hard and with two weeks til the next on an advanced 3YO campaign could fall off if someone is there good enough.
> Jim