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Re: Any update? (541 Views)
Posted by: bluechip21 (IP Logged)
Date: April 15, 2021 01:31PM

I'll take the bait.

Assuming Jerry's comment already includes the 2015 running:

In short: since 2016 (excluding 2020): 12 neg figures. 2 winners. and 2 more ITM. So 4 ITM. Of these 4, the negative number going in was not faster than negative 1.

So adding to JB's 13 year tally, 51 negative figures. 12 ITM... I think the takeaway is that you it might be OK to have a negative figure, but you do not want it being lower than negative 1 (ideally, you want it to be no faster than -0.2, when you exclude Justify). As a lot of the faster figs going into the gate did not fire in May.

Here is the "math"...

2016:
Number of neg figs: 1
Destin (-0.3) - finished 6th

2017:
Number of neg figs: 4
Always Dreaming (-0.2) - winner, paired neg fig.
Practical Joke (-0.2) - 5th; Gunnevera (-2.2) - 7th; Irish War Cry (-2.3) - 10th.

2018:
Number of neg figs: 6 (3 of the 6 rounded out the tri.)
Justify (-1) / Good Magic (-0.2) / Audible (-1.0) Each neg fig was in their final prep and each fig paired.
Mendelssohn (-4.2) – 20th; Bolt D Oro* (-1.0) - 12th; Vinno Russo (-1) - 9th.
*neg fig was at 2YO

2019:
Number of neg figs: 1
Improbable (-1.1) - 5th

Edit: typo (2x)



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Any update? (624 Views) PonyBologna 04/15/2021 12:10PM
Re: Any update? (541 Views) bluechip21 04/15/2021 01:31PM
Re: Any update? (491 Views) johnnym 04/15/2021 03:05PM
Re: Any update? (603 Views) TGAB 04/15/2021 06:04PM
Re: Any update? (557 Views) johnnym 04/15/2021 08:43PM
Re: Any update? (448 Views) Molesap 04/15/2021 10:22PM
Re: Any update? (452 Views) hellersorr 04/16/2021 12:12AM
Re: Any update? (431 Views) ajkreider 04/16/2021 01:10PM
Re: Any update? (310 Views) JohnTChance 04/17/2021 11:26AM


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