Re: Gulfstream in Jeopardy - I Talked To a Guy Who Knows A Guy Who Talked to a Guy. And 1031 Exchanges!!! (174 Views)
Posted by: Roman (IP Logged)
Date: February 03, 2025 12:52AM
In Kentucky they write races for horses that RNA'd or sold for less than 50k.
When they should be writing races for horses that are home bred and the sire stands for 5k.
They are literally pricing the small breeder/owner out of the game like they are doing to the player.
I have a really good friend that has 2 broodmares, three racing, and a baby on the farm. He is retired and on a pension and social security. Every penny he makes from purses returns to the industry plus I would think another 40-50k a year of his own money. He has been an owner for 40 years. He loses his money willingly because of his love for the sport. And there are many like him who don't mind losing that type of money, 50 percent or more of their income to participate. You need the small fish as much as you need the big fish. The small fish have to thrive in any eco system. Without plankton, there are no whales.
Handle is what needs to improve. They need to create more churn. Reduce the wagering options maybe. Do you need a double, pick 3/4/5/6 all a wagering option in the same race.
Santa Anita went to a 3 dollar pick 3. Why? Make it a dollar minimum.
Get rid of the .10 cent plays where you can play every combination and win by attrition.
Data should be free. Why don't more people follow your lead and give the data away to anyone like you do? You can redboard any race you want here, can't do that anywhere else.
Think about if you are someone like me , who likes to use Drf,Brisnet and TG figures to handicap, and an Equineline or Bris produce record for pedigree research, pay for workout videos, or workout reports , just to be able to wager with an edge, especially when the remaining pool of players are just as sharp or way sharper , to be able to compete pari-mutuely. Sometimes during the triple crown, my data expenses are as much or more than I wager for the three events. That's monies that would be wagered, and churned.
Not saying that figure makers and providers should be doing it for free.
The tracks should be supplying the data to the player.
All the major auction houses supply past performance from every figure maker from TG, Thoromanager, Equibase, Drf,Rags, pedigree and analysis all for free for the buyers at those sales, but the player, which without there would be no racing , have to bear the brunt of the price of data.
Every other sport supplies copious amounts of data to it's fans and for free.
Just for an example, my handle, would double right now if all that data was free, and being a weekend warrior mostly would put my handle into 6 figures.
Imagine if handle would double. Do you still need slot subsidies? You attract more flies with honey than vinegar, and most of everything in the industry is tainted with vinegar.
Which is really sad. While HISA may be costly, something needed to be done, and when you refuse to do something about problems, someone will fill that void and do something about those problems, and it's usually a government agency.
And the urban bull$h!t Bellinda was spewing was unfreakin believable. Any ever see a birds eye view of Happy Valley? Having stadiums and racetracks near or in urban areas is exactly where they need to be, that's where the people are.
She thinks we are stupid. Why would she say something like that otherwise?
When they should be writing races for horses that are home bred and the sire stands for 5k.
They are literally pricing the small breeder/owner out of the game like they are doing to the player.
I have a really good friend that has 2 broodmares, three racing, and a baby on the farm. He is retired and on a pension and social security. Every penny he makes from purses returns to the industry plus I would think another 40-50k a year of his own money. He has been an owner for 40 years. He loses his money willingly because of his love for the sport. And there are many like him who don't mind losing that type of money, 50 percent or more of their income to participate. You need the small fish as much as you need the big fish. The small fish have to thrive in any eco system. Without plankton, there are no whales.
Handle is what needs to improve. They need to create more churn. Reduce the wagering options maybe. Do you need a double, pick 3/4/5/6 all a wagering option in the same race.
Santa Anita went to a 3 dollar pick 3. Why? Make it a dollar minimum.
Get rid of the .10 cent plays where you can play every combination and win by attrition.
Data should be free. Why don't more people follow your lead and give the data away to anyone like you do? You can redboard any race you want here, can't do that anywhere else.
Think about if you are someone like me , who likes to use Drf,Brisnet and TG figures to handicap, and an Equineline or Bris produce record for pedigree research, pay for workout videos, or workout reports , just to be able to wager with an edge, especially when the remaining pool of players are just as sharp or way sharper , to be able to compete pari-mutuely. Sometimes during the triple crown, my data expenses are as much or more than I wager for the three events. That's monies that would be wagered, and churned.
Not saying that figure makers and providers should be doing it for free.
The tracks should be supplying the data to the player.
All the major auction houses supply past performance from every figure maker from TG, Thoromanager, Equibase, Drf,Rags, pedigree and analysis all for free for the buyers at those sales, but the player, which without there would be no racing , have to bear the brunt of the price of data.
Every other sport supplies copious amounts of data to it's fans and for free.
Just for an example, my handle, would double right now if all that data was free, and being a weekend warrior mostly would put my handle into 6 figures.
Imagine if handle would double. Do you still need slot subsidies? You attract more flies with honey than vinegar, and most of everything in the industry is tainted with vinegar.
Which is really sad. While HISA may be costly, something needed to be done, and when you refuse to do something about problems, someone will fill that void and do something about those problems, and it's usually a government agency.
And the urban bull$h!t Bellinda was spewing was unfreakin believable. Any ever see a birds eye view of Happy Valley? Having stadiums and racetracks near or in urban areas is exactly where they need to be, that's where the people are.
She thinks we are stupid. Why would she say something like that otherwise?
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