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Re: Derby Figures and Evidence (360 Views)
Posted by: Chuckles_the_Clown2 (IP Logged)
Date: December 09, 2004 02:47PM

Michael D. wrote:

> ragozin group makes figures, and why they tie races together
> much less than you do.

I don't think the above is an accurate statement. To my knowledge the Rag method was to assume the track "variant" was a constant for the day unless there was a climatic event. Thats tying races together. TGraph on the other hand is on the advant garde regarding track speeds changing throughout the day. We know they do. All you have to do is consider the drying out track at Lone Star Park on Breeders Cup Day. If I understand it correctly TGraph uses the Rag method when the track produces race times for the day consisent with the track remaining uniform. When the track changes TGraph factors the changing track speed. Clearly there is some art to that. To my mind its art to counter bad "science".

But let me ask you this: "Whose number is going to be more credible in this dilemma, the concern that scrutinizes and discusses their methodology or the concern that allows errors to go uncorrected and discourages debate?"

CtC



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Derby Figures and Evidence (852 Views) TGJB 12/08/2004 01:31PM
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Re: Derby Figures and Evidence (411 Views) TGJB 12/08/2004 02:42PM
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Re: Derby Figures and Evidence (383 Views) JohnTChance 12/08/2004 04:42PM
Re: Derby Figures and Evidence (464 Views) 12/08/2004 04:54PM
Re: Derby Figures and Evidence (374 Views) Chuckles_the_Clown2 12/08/2004 05:13PM
Re: Derby Figures and Evidence (386 Views) TGJB 12/08/2004 05:46PM
Re: Derby Figures and Evidence (373 Views) Michael D. 12/08/2004 08:54PM
Re: Derby Figures and Evidence (435 Views) Michael D. 12/08/2004 09:10PM
Re: Derby Figures and Evidence (383 Views) TGJB 12/09/2004 01:12PM
Re: Derby Figures and Evidence (418 Views) Michael D. 12/09/2004 01:33PM
Re: Derby Figures and Evidence (382 Views) 12/09/2004 01:52PM
Re: Derby Figures and Evidence (408 Views) TGJB 12/09/2004 02:14PM
Re: Derby Figures and Evidence (372 Views) TGJB 12/09/2004 02:11PM
Re: Derby Figures and Evidence (381 Views) Michael D. 12/09/2004 02:43PM
Re: Derby Figures and Evidence (364 Views) TGJB 12/09/2004 02:53PM
Re: Derby Figures and Evidence (360 Views) Chuckles_the_Clown2 12/09/2004 02:47PM
Re: Derby Figures and Evidence (408 Views) Michael D. 12/09/2004 02:56PM
Re: Derby Figures and Evidence (400 Views) Michael D. 12/09/2004 01:44PM


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