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Re: Just For The Hell Of It (498 Views)
Posted by: miff (IP Logged)
Date: December 10, 2004 09:26AM

I believe JB stated someplace that horse are 5-10 lengths (1-2 seconds) faster today than years past.I personally believe, from using TG figs for more than 15 years, that JB has added this unproven theory to his thinking when making the figs(intentionally or unintentionally). I further believe that this accounts for the much lower figs being awarded to present day runners, some of whom are 'COMMON" in comparision to some of the games great ones of past times.

I have posted before that I and other loyal long time TG users are having serious problems with the much faster figs being awarded.The RAW evidence on the tracks, every day do not support the theory that horses are 1-2 seconds faster. The FIGURES are definitely faster and faster.


TG may have reasonably hung it's hat on generational improvements of all beings as part of it's theory that horses are bigger, stronger and logically faster from a commom sense standpoint but not from a scientific study.

Here are some informal common sense points. There are very few horses of high calibre who were physically more imposing than Dr. Fager and Secretariat. I asked JB to specifically name the horses he felt were bigger, stronger and faster than just these two, as an example.I was rather summarily dismissed as unclear and unfocused and unable to comprehend what was being espoused. Incidendally, that's after 40 years in the game and having watched over 100k races.


The opinions(admittedly unscientific) of many prominent horsemen in NY that I posed this question to within the last month or so ranged from:

Horses are not as fast as years ago
Horses are just as fast as years ago
Horses MAY be faster today but not 5-10 lenghts

VERY Inconclusive even from an opinion point of view.

My problem is simple, I run a business and do not have many hours to spend on handicapping.I must have absolute faith in the integrity of the figs(I"m betting serious money) and I have done very well in the past with TG. Right now, I am unsure that the methodology is as sound as it used to be.

I think this is very clear and deserves a clear unsarcastic reply.



miff



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