kev wrote:

> 300,000 horse and it's winning G1's and 2's, can you really say
> he's using the juice. I think some people just don't like
> certain trainers.

First off, 300K really isn't that much for a horse. It's almost slumming as hard as that is to comprehend. Look at the number of Great Trainers that have to wait years for another horse. Drysdale had A.p. Indy in 1992. It took him until 2000 to get another with some abilitiy. (FuPig)

Shug ran good horses in the Derby in consecutive years 1988 and 1989 with Seeking the Gold and Easy Goer. A couple years back he had one named Accellerator that was close to Derby good, but I think he missed it. I can't recall now.

Look at Charlie Whittingham's Derby record. Ferdinand in 86, Sunday Silence in 89 and Strodes Creek in 94 and that was a pretty good string.

Bottom line is you just don't come up with good horse after good horse in this game. It doesn't happen. Rather, it didn't happen until the last five years. Frankel has been getting hand me downs from Juddmonte and others and improving them trememdously. He's always been a good trainer, but he never moved horses like he's currently doing.

According to Delmar Deb, he's complaining about the milkshake positive impositions and threatening to race elsewhere. I don't know it that is true and honestly I can't point to what he's doing and say: "There it is! There's the proof of his shenanigans!", but he is cheating.

Everything seems to be leaning towards oxygen pick up and lactic acid inhibitors. Supposedly this vet "White Mercedes" stated he worked with "Titrations". (Allday is Frankel's Vet). I'm not sure what Titrations are but from my glancing at medical (lab) reports they have a Ph component (Acid/Base) and involve identitifying an unknown substance by the quantitative remainder of a known substance introduced into the compound. I'm speculating, and I don't like to do that, but I think Allday is playing word games with the neutralization of lactic acid by administering a buffer.