A five year old that had been running for Frankel for multiple starts ran a new top? ...OK

First question. Did your on the ground personnel clock the 6th at approximately 1.47.25? Later( would point out it looks like around a 2 won that race) If the time is legit have to think a similar number is not far off in the Atto.

last Question, which of the also rans do you maintain ran his race? I'm guessing Mobil, but hes a better dirt horse than a turf horse. Did he run his 1.5 or did he run his 3.1? Or can we even say?

As far as a horse running within himself that was speculated pre race, thinking he'd need more to win by a length or two that day. I see no reason to maintain he gave more Sunday. Unless the answers to those questions change the parameters.

P.S. If that really was Barry Irwin he'll be very happy to hear your opinion. Thats undoubtedly why he tuned in. He was searching for a frame of reference.

Barry, You're monster is going down Breeders Cup Day. No board for you. (Revising that to no Trophy, this is a pitiful u.s. crop of milers)

LATER I OBVIOUSLY ONLY HAVE CHART GROUND LOSS AND ITS GENERALLY INACCURATE. ASSUME MOBIL RAN A TGRAPH 3.1 AND CALCULATE YOUR BEATEN LENGTHS AND WEIGHT
I'M GUESSING LEROID COMES OUT TO ABOUT A 1.5 TO 2 IN THAT EVENT
IM CLOSE ARENT I




TGJB Wrote:
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> A couple of quick comments.
>
> First, I totally agree with SoCal that looking at
> "box scores" is a mistake if you have accurate
> figures to work with. Figures represent ability
> and performance, the other represents
> accomplishment, and will in turn be reflected on
> the tote board. The trick is to find situations
> where the two are in conflict, and the odds, in
> simplest terms, are wrong. That's the basis for
> not only betting horses, but buying them with
> success.
>
> Second, about Leroy. Given how often grass horses
> run close to their tops, I'm sure the others did
> not all run "X"'s, meaning it will turn out Leroy
> ran a big new top. But here's the thing-- there
> was an argument made here that his winning record
> meant he maybe could have run faster in those
> races, won by more if he had to. So now all you
> have to explain to me is why he won by 8 this
> time. Did he have to?
>
> He ran a new top. It happens. Sometimes by a 3/5
> shot, sometimes by a 35-1 shot.






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