HP: Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you essentially saying that you take into consideration the factors which work for you in the context of a specific race to make a handicapping judgment re whether each contender is an overlay to go forward, backward, or stay about the same? If so, you might want to take a look at the Wired article when it goes online tomorrow, because the "cutting edge" of what a few sheets players are working on & doing is not all that different conceptually from what the HK & ND teams are doing on the handicapping side. On a different note, what can you tell me about Cary Fotias?

TH: I guess I deserved that, although I note that you & HP have put your scroll bar discussion aside & are now engaged in a very civil discourse on an interesting topic. I have also been using Brisnet for pace & some other non-TG info for a no. of yrs, and am probably somewhere in between you & HP when it comes to the importance of pace in any particular contest. One sort of late-breaking development in this area is the effort to combine sheet concepts & Sartin pace/velocity ratings, which is explained in a book by, you guessed it, Cary Fotias. I'll let you know what it says in a week or so, but in the meantime the concepts are explained in a general way at equiform.com, which I am not endorsing or plugging in any way.