to tgjb

I said I was outta here, but you called me out (in a respectful way) so I shall respond

1. My initial post was obviously not well worded....I did not mean to infer that Ragozin was the "good guy" and that you are the "bad guy"....I realize that there are Rags posters who come over here for no other reason than to stir the pot and vice versa..and his comment a few weeks back questioning your work ethic was outta line..so I am well aware that this goes both ways

2. to answer your question regaring "how would I respond to a Rags guy lying about my business and then admitting to it.....I would have been pissed off,,,,,

3. to answer your question regarding their ignoring of your letter,,, which implies they are guilty....I'd say no,,,,definitely possible but not a certainty by any means....

I will attempt to re-word my point....There are those customers who are die hard Rags supporters and there are those who are die hard Thoro users, both positions are extremely clear....I am neither...I use the Rags because I've had success in the past....I've spent many hours at the track with friends who are Thoro users....We usually find that your products show similar lines....When there is a difference, I'd guess it's about 50-50 as to which numbers appear to be correct, so I'd call it a wash as to whose numbers are more accurate....tho I do envy their ability to download and the additional stats are certainly handy at times..

Very few of us know either yourself or Ragozin...and I'm sure that if we sat down with him he would be just as critical of you...Not knowing either of you, most of us decide to ignore this on-going debate about morality and variants...His decision to not respond to your issues means one of three things.
1. you're right
2. He chooses not to get caught in the debate,,,if innocent he sees no reason to defend himself
3. some of both

I don't know and can't make that determination without knowing either of you (tho someone did call me a jackass earler without knowing me,,,,and he might be right)..

It appears you have a solid business plan, and clearly your business model is superior to his...His decision to not allow for electronic downloads bothers me in a big way....You have a huge competive advantage in this area, and if I were you, that's what I would be focusing on....

but you on the other hand have admittedly decided to focus your marketing on negativity...a stance I have never supported (rather political or business) and because of this I have still not made the switch...tho your statement from the other day that I never will is totally inaccurate..

You've stated that your negative campaign has been successful, so who am I to argue with success....If your current strategy draws in more new clients than it keeps away,,,I wouldn't expect you to change


This is my first time posting on either board, and in general I've been treated respectfully...I said I'd never get involved in one of these long drawn out strings, but I guess I was wrong....

Best of luck