Thanks P-Dub and generally sure money is to be made going against those"sure things" ,and is a point very well taken ... but in this specific situation the P-4 becomes approachable for me with the possibility of a manageable amount of combinations when using two singles . I'm not a P-3/4 player and will pass on it if not in love with the play when looking at the rest of it , but IMO sometimes - and this could be one of those times - 'you have to let those P-4 prices take care of themselves ...

marcus