Michael D. Wrote:
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> Barry Irwin Wrote:
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> > Most grass numbers, by the way, are pulled out
> of
> > thin air, because they don't run enough grass
> > races on a card each day to make an accurate
> > number. And using numbers from the day before
> or
> > the day after only serve to confuse the issue.
>
> Barry, you've obviously never used Jerry's sod
> figures. he rarely (if ever) relies solely on the
> clock. they are performance figures. it's a number
> that a guy with years of experience assigns to a
> race, going off the horses in that race. trust me,
> they are worth something. I'll pull up a few $50
> hits from this forum if you need a bit of proof.

I would say that Barry's statement is self evident and in harmony with Jerry's comment on the front of this week's promo, ROTW, concerning grass racing. No matter their value, (it is not in our/your interest to give examples - and Mr Brown is doing fine it would seem), they are by definition more subjective than dirt numbers for reasons that both Barry and Jerry state as recently as today. We could just be simplistic and realize that paceless races on surfaces that are not standardized/maintained the way main tracks (were I want to say) are have to be a bigger challenge. That this product is superior is why we are all here, I would expect, including Mr Irwin. I will give him this, he saw the same filly I did last Saturday, and no one else mentioned it all week. So, I would be less critical of his statement than you are.
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