Re: Pucker Up (RotW) Turf Talk (356 Views)
Posted by:
stillinger (IP Logged)
Date: September 15, 2007 11:36PM
Not that it matters, but I wish I had said this. The last line is one of the biggest current edges in No America - I don't even know why I would say that in public, old and soft I guess.
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Ill-bred Wrote:
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> Those jumping all over Mr. Irwin should realize he
> is not attacking Thorograph's quality. It's a
> question of the nature of turf racing vs. dirt
> racing, and how turf racing is best understood
> (and measured).
>
> Can you bet top figure horses or pattern horses on
> the turf and get a fair number of winners? Yes
>
> If you were an average turf handicapper before you
> got into Thorograph, will it move you up?
> Probably
>
> Are final-time based speed figures, even excellent
> ones like Thorograph, the best way to judge a turf
> race? No!
>
> And that's not a slam on Thorograph in any way.
> They make great figs, and their accompanying stats
> range from useful to groundbreaking.
>
> But if you handicap a turf race using speed
> figures as your No. 1 measurement, you are going
> to miss a big part of the picture.
>
> The great thing about Beyer figures is that they
> are not very good for turf racing, yet they have a
> strong influence on the wagering.