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Re: Pucker Up (RotW) (376 Views)
Posted by: stillinger (IP Logged)
Date: September 16, 2007 12:58AM

EJXD2 Wrote:
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> At the price she was an automatic toss.

I don't even agree with this. She was dominant in front, and she finishes and she loves the surface, and she is back in form. It's even true that the turf courses in VA and ILL have overlap in terms of type and length in general - Red Giant ran big both places for instance.

Who was supposed to keep up with her early? To beat her, you have to keep her wide, slow up the ground, her be out of condition which would have been hard to argue off her race in VA, and following her career, period. She was best! AND the speed. Like other turfers that ran in front. If you can finish and you start that from in front? Lure, Sabin, even John Henry was best when he ran in front when he was old. regardless the figure, if you get to choose, choose the one that can lead and finish.

I don't think you should BELEIVE in a figure, rather in your ability to use a figure to your advantage. In fact, that's probably what the vendor would counsel.
This is not a pace figure. It is not impossible to beat her, you just need some other pace elements than were present last week. If you run it again, maybe the connections of the second speed will figure out an angle to cut into her advantage, and like a man said here, there was a little jam, she got a great break, but she breaks great. This number, good as it is, ain't magic, especially on the turf. There is probably a disclaimer to that effect somewhere on site.

Maybe she could draw the rail and have to stand in the gate a long time, and get hot? Those horses didn't have much chance, and Jerry's comment that she was a dead underlay is sound overall, but you couldn't have paid me to bet against her in the win slot. I am very old fashioned. There are easier things to do. The stake tomorrow isn't one of them to me.



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Pucker Up (RotW) (760 Views) EJXD2 09/14/2007 11:54AM
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Re: Pucker Up (RotW) (465 Views) marcus 09/14/2007 12:36PM
Re: Pucker Up (RotW) (427 Views) fkach 09/14/2007 01:20PM
Re: Pucker Up (RotW) (410 Views) Josephus 09/14/2007 03:10PM
Re: Pucker Up (RotW) (438 Views) stillinger 09/14/2007 04:51PM
Re: Pucker Up (RotW) (411 Views) davidrex 09/14/2007 08:20PM
Re: Pucker Up (RotW) (478 Views) Barry Irwin 09/14/2007 08:56PM
Re: Pucker Up (RotW) (429 Views) Frank 09/14/2007 09:15PM
Re: Pucker Up (RotW) (427 Views) Michael D. 09/14/2007 09:43PM
Re: Pucker Up (RotW) (437 Views) stillinger 09/14/2007 10:33PM
Re: Pucker Up (RotW) Turf Talk (407 Views) stillinger 09/14/2007 11:09PM
Re: Pucker Up (RotW) Turf Talk (489 Views) Barry Irwin 09/15/2007 07:02AM
Re: Pucker Up (RotW) Turf Talk (405 Views) P.Eckhart 09/15/2007 09:16AM
Re: Pucker Up (RotW) Turf Talk (387 Views) fkach 09/15/2007 09:46AM
Re: Pucker Up (RotW) Turf Talk (374 Views) Frank 09/15/2007 09:48AM
Re: Pucker Up (RotW) Turf Talk (423 Views) Michael D. 09/15/2007 11:42AM
Re: Pucker Up (RotW) Turf Talk (434 Views) TGJB 09/15/2007 04:36PM
Re: Pucker Up (RotW) Turf Talk (421 Views) Ill-bred 09/15/2007 10:30PM
Re: Pucker Up (RotW) Turf Talk (356 Views) stillinger 09/15/2007 11:36PM
Re: Pucker Up (RotW) Turf Talk (411 Views) Barry Irwin 09/16/2007 12:27AM
Re: Pucker Up (RotW) Turf Talk (363 Views) fkach 09/16/2007 10:26AM
Re: Pucker Up (RotW) (376 Views) stillinger 09/16/2007 12:58AM


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