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Re: ROTW-scott lake (366 Views)
Posted by: richiebee (IP Logged)
Date: September 23, 2007 12:27AM

123

I am glad that someone is at least discussing or willing to discuss the entire
notion of a move up trainer. The "move up trainer" is mentioned frequently on
the board and might mean different things to different people.
Hopefully one day there will be a formal discussion of the "MUT" in the
archives the same way that there are discussions of track surfaces and whether
or not racehorses are running faster.

Part of the problem in discussing the MUT on this board would be that it would
automatically be assumed that all MUTs are involved in performance enhancing
methods which are illegal or in some grey area of legality; this assumption is
not an unfair one, but there are sometimes other factors involved with a
trainer improving the performance of a new acquisition.

With regards to your specific inquiry, I might suggest the following:

A) 25% tops might be something you will not find frequently in the figure based
trainer stats; and

B) is it possible to move a horse up without the horse running a top or even
a pair?

C) the statistic you mention is "first race after trainer change". I would
imagine that some trainers are proficient at getting a top performance out of
a new acquisition immediately, while others gradually get improved performance,
maybe in the second or third race after acquisition, maybe after some time off.

Sorry if I have misunderstood your question, or answered a question or
addressed an issue other than the one you are raising. Its the whole Big Ben
syndrome which Stillinger found so amusing.

The identification and understanding of move up trainers will be very important
to me this Winter. The Fair Grounds has migrated to HRTV, and If I cant watch
it, I will not bet on it. That leaves me with NYRA, the innercourse, the inner
tube, the squared circle.(Assuming of course that TVG doesn't lose the NYRA
signal, in which case they could change their name to HRBTTV (Harness Racing
and Bush Track Television)).

Unless there are sweeping changes under Hal Handel (not likely) I see winter
racing in NY being dominated by 3 trainers, and understanding when to bet them
(and when to beat them) will be important.



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Re: ROTW (656 Views) TGJB 09/20/2007 06:50PM
Re: ROTW (587 Views) spa 09/20/2007 07:32PM
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Re: Bear Now -- Surfaces (603 Views) TGJB 09/21/2007 01:48PM
Re: ROTW-scott lake (463 Views) 123 09/22/2007 08:54AM
Re: ROTW-scott lake (439 Views) richiebee 09/22/2007 10:44AM
Re: ROTW-scott lake (378 Views) stillinger 09/22/2007 04:45PM
Re: ROTW-scott lake (441 Views) TGJB 09/22/2007 06:40PM
Re: ROTW-scott lake (363 Views) 123 09/22/2007 11:43PM
Re: ROTW-scott lake (366 Views) richiebee 09/23/2007 12:27AM
Re: ROTW-scott lake (394 Views) stillinger 09/23/2007 12:43AM
Re: ROTW-scott lake (335 Views) 123 09/23/2007 09:45AM
Re: ROTW-scott lake (335 Views) fkach 09/23/2007 10:07AM
Re: ROTW-scott lake (412 Views) Bally Ache 09/22/2007 10:46AM
Re: Bear Now -- Surfaces (390 Views) stillinger 09/22/2007 07:05PM
Re: Bear Now -- Surfaces (342 Views) alm 09/23/2007 11:28AM
Re: ROTW (414 Views) Michael D. 09/22/2007 09:40AM
Re: ROTW (416 Views) shanahan 09/22/2007 10:11AM
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Re: ROTW (431 Views) stillinger 09/22/2007 04:25PM


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