I think is where this string started when 'Student of the game' posted
"Mr. Brown:
Since it is the time of year when we will see 3-year-olds break through their 2-year-old tops, I would be interested to know what you consider the ideal pattern(s) for such horses in terms of a next-out bet."

Charismatic seems to be coming up repeatedly as a clear example. So how about someone take a pause from the flaming and offer an analysis of that line going into the Derby. Someone who actually has the sheets (either product) should take a shot at it.