Re: Reposting--Friedman fires smoking gun--shoots foot (904 Views)
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Marc At (IP Logged)
Date: February 07, 2003 05:47PM
"but you're not smart enough to know it, or how your stuff plays."
Perhaps you're the one who doesn't know how your stuff plays?
"1-- Notice I did not say any of those things you ascribed to me (destroyed, etc.) to Alydar."
No, but you rather regularly make these comments to anyone who disagrees with you here who is not a customer of yours.
"2-- My question about users of the two products MIGHT have been a characterization IF I HAD ANSWERED IT. I stated what had taken place, and asked those reading to make their OWN characterizations. Get it?"
Finally, an acknowledgement that characterization might indeed be the right word to explain what you did. The ground shifts slightly. Now let's come completely clean-- again I find myself quoting your words:
""Now, what does ALL THIS TELL US about the two products, AND THOSE WHO USE THEM?"
To me, this speaks volumes. Does it "tell us" that they (Ragozin customers) are wonderful people? No, clearly, ay reading of the full post or the quote above indicates that "all this," as attributed to the Chilukki dialogue and Ragozin customers not demanding more of Friedman, is a negative as it pertains to Ragozin customers. And accordingly, the question quoted above is clearly making a broad, negative characterization at "those who use" Ragozin.
"3-- You also OF COURSE, BEING WHO YOU ARE, AND ARGUING THE WAY YOU DO, have re-cast my original statement in order to attack it."
This is also one of your tactics-- claim that you have been fouled by some sort of recasting. You made a statement about Ragozin customers when you characterized the way you did. You didn't (and don't) understand that there's other ways of handling things than your way-- fine. But trying to pretend it wasn't anything other than a broad characterization, when it clearly was, is not something I take well.
"I don't characterize Ragozin players AS A MATTER OF COURSE".
But then you proceeded to do precisely that. A broad, negativecharacterization.
"4-- Yeah, that's probably it-- if the sampling was bigger,"
I have no idea what would become apparent if the sampling was bigger. Your confidence that you can figure out an entire customer base of several thousand people off of those who contribute on a Bboard(s), well, I don't share it.
"it would become apparent that Ragozin players are as likely to ask hard questions of Friedman as both they and the TG players are of me. So when you, Patent, Plever, Litt, Soup, Jim, et al, are willing to grill me, but not Friedman, no one should draw any conclusions from it."
There's a ton of reasons why people don't grill Friedman. #1, and far and away #1, is because he's not responsive to it. You then have to decide whether that means his figures are bad or if there are other reasons that are less harmful to one's ROI. Every Ragozin player I know who actually cares about this stuff, they choose the latter logic.
I aoplogize for taking up your time with another laughably moronic post.