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Re: Laurel 2/22 (782 Views)
Posted by: TGJB (IP Logged)
Date: February 28, 2003 03:12PM

There are several potential problems in doing this involving run-ups and differences in pitch of the chute, track maintenance etc., but the biggest (and this race provides a good example) is wind. There was a solid 8 o'clock wind (if you are looking down on the track from above, wind blowing towards 8 on the clock) which is behind them both on the backstretch and turn, and in their faces in the stretch. You therefore can't compare the first 6f to the 6f races on the day, since you are subtracting a furlong into the wind and substituting one with it.

If we ASSUMED no other differences, we could work out a figure for a 6 furlong race ending at the eighth pole, but it would involve reconfiguring the wind program in the computer, which is based on races finishing at the wire, and would be a real pain in the butt. If you want a seat of the pants estimate, I would say there would be about a 3 point difference in the effect of wind on this day for a 6f race starting at the 7f pole and ending at the eighth pole vs. a regular one.

By the way, the 6 and 7f races at Laurel split often, and did on this day, with the 7f races coming up much slower, with the exception of the Gen. George.

Incidentally, I notice that Friedman has deleted a whole string of comments/questions about the Laurel day. Can't imagine why.



TGJB



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Laurel 2/22 (1263 Views) TGJB 02/27/2003 05:52PM
Re: Laurel 2/22 (747 Views) Michael D. 02/27/2003 06:21PM
Re: Laurel 2/22 (718 Views) TGJB 02/27/2003 06:29PM
Re: Laurel 2/22 (744 Views) The Kid 02/27/2003 08:38PM
Re: Laurel 2/22 (776 Views) TGJB 02/28/2003 01:08PM
Re: Laurel 2/22 (781 Views) Alydar in California 02/28/2003 08:24AM
Re: Laurel 2/22 (807 Views) mholbert 02/28/2003 10:01AM
Re: Laurel 2/22 (746 Views) Silver Charm 02/28/2003 11:32AM
Re: Laurel 2/22 (778 Views) TGJB 02/28/2003 01:20PM
Re: Laurel 2/22 (787 Views) Alydar in California 02/28/2003 02:12PM
Re: Laurel 2/22 (782 Views) TGJB 02/28/2003 03:12PM
Re: Laurel 2/22 (825 Views) Alydar in California 02/28/2003 03:36PM
Re: Laurel 2/22 (752 Views) Alydar in California 02/28/2003 03:49PM
Re: Laurel 2/22 (926 Views) TGJB 02/28/2003 04:29PM
Re: Laurel 2/22 (758 Views) Silver Charm 03/03/2003 06:44PM
Friedman Admits-Avoid Comparisons (773 Views) Silver Charm 03/03/2003 06:56PM
Re: Laurel 2/22 (780 Views) mholbert 03/04/2003 10:52AM
Re: Laurel 2/22 (783 Views) TGJB 03/04/2003 02:49PM
Re: Laurel 2/22 (770 Views) mholbert 03/04/2003 03:20PM
fatigue model (797 Views) derby1592 03/05/2003 01:22AM
Re: fatigue model (830 Views) mholbert 03/06/2003 09:55AM
Re: fatigue model (810 Views) derby1592 03/06/2003 10:44PM


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