Re: Will Buddy Gill Bounce??--Is Friedman crazy?? (785 Views)
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Silver Charm (IP Logged)
Date: April 04, 2003 11:02AM
TGJB I'm glad you wrote the previous post because after David enlightened me on how Buddy Gil looked on Rags I almost couldn't believe it. The following from an encrypted post is what I think??? Buddy Gil looks like on the Rags.
1"..5+ is regressing again
Now the reason I was glad you posted first was because having David and Marc and some of the other insightful handicappers posting on this Board is good for everyone. The last thing I wanted to do was go on the attack and make David feel as though he had to defend Rags numbers. He doesn't have to defend his handicapping position, his analysis may prove to be very solid. We will know very soon won't we.
This is what I can't believe about the numbers and running line of Buddy Gil as produced by Rags. The San Felipe was considered to be the best and deepest field of all the Derby Preps to date(Fla Derby was not deep). So how in the world does Rags have a horse who wins regress over four points. Was the turf number that wrong!!
I just have a hard time figuring this kind of thing out. This horse had 3W ground loss on both turns carried 119 pounds encountered serious traffic trouble coming off the turn and down through the lane, REGRESSED OVER 4 POINTS AND STILL WON!!!! What?????
Forget Empire Maker if this horse moves forward again, at least according to Rags, he is a freak.
Now if Buddy Gil is up the track then who is right, Rags who says he is already in a state of regression, TG who may say he bounced after pairing up big tops. No one will really know for sure.
One thing for people to consider is his pedigree. The sire Eastern Echo was an old Rokeby Stable runner who busted out of the box with big 5 furlong sprint win at Saratoga in a baby race. He was injured and did not return. His dam is the blue hen mare Wild Applause who also has Yell in the Ashland Stakes on Sat. Wild Applause also threw Roar and another 6 1/2 furlong track record settor at CD owned by Dogwood whose name slips my mind and many others. The point is this is a blue chip quality pedigree on top but it mostly favors speed. On the bottom side the dam sire is For Really who I only remember as a New York based 2YO sprinter. Where's the stamina???
Back to my main point, if Friedman and company want me to believe that 3 Year Olds who are in a developing state actually regress 4 points and win a major Ky Derby Prep while carrying weight, incurring ground loss and traffic trouble, well sorry April Fools Day has already come and gone for this year.
Take that from someone who knows.
Post Edited (04-04-03 11:02)