TGJB thanks,

I remember that post and it was in the middle of the (should I say the word??) "Chilukki argument." If my memory serves me correctly it wasn't much longer after that post that you asked LF how he came up with "his variant" for that race and he went into hiding. No way he could admit he made it up, at least not in public.

I will go back and reread the post. Because I'm so new to some of the specifics of making figures the real complicated details take some time to sink in for me. Generally that's the way it is with everything for me but once I figure something out I'll never forget it.