David,

You just don't get it do you? You find my protestations hilarious What does that mean? If you think I'm a liar call me one.

Read what I posted. As far as I am aware I never made any comments on the relative merits of the figures. I objected to your dissembling - we never did get to the bottom of why 'simply' and 'just' are not synonyms -and Friedman's practice of attacking Jerry (or allowing others to post even more vicious statements) and denying him the right to reply. In my world if you give it, you take it. Your world is obviously very different.

With hindsight maybe I should have said that I had a commercial relationship with Thorograph but given the banality of the contributions from some of the more extreme Raggies (not you) then the exchange would have been reduced to 'You're only saying that because you work for him.' That's shallow and would render anything I'd written pointless. Rather than trying devalue my comments with weak slurs about bias, re-read what I posted and argue with the logic. If all you can do is call me names then we all know who has made the stronger case, don't we?

Mandown

P.S.: Given that you're so keen on the principle of disclosure why don't you raise the same matter on the other board? How many of those posts are internal? And why not also criticise some of the more extreme posts on that site whil you're at it? God knows JB is an easy man to fall out with but the hatred expressed for him by some people on the other side I find distasteful to say the least. Surely a man of your principles has a similar view? Or are you also such a committed member of the Church of Ragozin that the organisation is beyond question or criticism? My worry is that one day we'll wake up and discover there's been a mysterious mass suicide in the East Village.