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Re: Derby Picture (677 Views)
Posted by: jimbo66 (IP Logged)
Date: April 13, 2014 11:32AM

will disagree with that.

Bayern ran like a short horse. He was seemingly "put away" by a lousy longshot, then found a bit more run in the stretch. Don't think the distance was the problem. Either not as good as some thought or a short horse. Take your pick.

Tread,

You keep saying "a bunch about the same on figures", and this is the thorograph board, but so I guess that is in accurate statement in the context of where you are posting it, but in "performance" on track, this is not even close.

Any fool that thinks that General A-Rod is as faster or faster than California Chrome shouldn't be playing this game, I don't care what the TG figure is.

I am not necessarily saying TGJB has the figures wrong, but you have to assess the performance holistically. PHony ground loss that isn't relevant in the way the race was run will inflate a figure. Running with or against a bias affects a performance but isn't part of the figure. Pressing a pace will affect a figure. Lots of factors.

There is no way that anybody out there is in the same league as California Chrome right now.

That doesn't mean he has to translate that form to Churchill or at 1 1/4. But he is the best right now. Period. There is no "bunch of horses at the same ability".



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Derby Picture (865 Views) miff 04/13/2014 09:10AM
Re: Derby Picture (623 Views) big18741 04/13/2014 10:03AM
Re: Derby Picture (612 Views) miff 04/13/2014 10:32AM
Re: Derby Picture (590 Views) ajkreider 04/13/2014 10:41AM
Re: Derby Picture (585 Views) TreadHead 04/13/2014 10:40AM
Re: Derby Picture (509 Views) Michael D. 04/13/2014 11:16AM
Re: Derby Picture (677 Views) jimbo66 04/13/2014 11:32AM
Re: Derby Picture (562 Views) FrankD. 04/13/2014 11:47AM
Re: Derby Picture (579 Views) jimbo66 04/13/2014 11:55AM
Re: Derby Picture (514 Views) Bet Twice 04/13/2014 01:02PM
Re: Derby Picture (499 Views) jimbo66 04/13/2014 02:19PM
Re: Derby Picture (567 Views) TGJB 04/13/2014 02:23PM
Re: Derby Picture (522 Views) jimbo66 04/13/2014 02:27PM
Re: Derby Picture (563 Views) TGJB 04/13/2014 02:32PM
Re: Derby Picture (542 Views) ajkreider 04/13/2014 01:30PM
Re: Derby Picture (528 Views) TGJB 04/13/2014 01:38PM
Re: Derby Picture (556 Views) covelj70 04/13/2014 01:40PM
Re: Derby Picture (542 Views) Silver Charm 04/13/2014 01:50PM
Re: Derby Picture (565 Views) TGJB 04/13/2014 02:05PM
Re: Derby Picture (544 Views) Michael D. 04/13/2014 12:13PM
Re: Derby Picture (535 Views) jimbo66 04/13/2014 12:36PM
Re: Derby Picture (495 Views) TreadHead 04/13/2014 01:08PM
Re: Derby Picture (543 Views) TGJB 04/13/2014 01:26PM
Re: Derby Picture (506 Views) jimbo66 04/13/2014 02:21PM
Re: Derby Picture (469 Views) Tavasco 04/13/2014 04:19PM


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