Re: Arlington Million Revisited (454 Views)
Posted by:
P.Eckhart (IP Logged)
Date: August 23, 2004 01:13PM
Lucy wrote:
"if what you maintain is true, jerry would seem to be wasting a great amount of effort on euro figs, as I'm sure that it's even more pronounced over there."
Classhandicapper wrote:
"It's not a waste of time. Speed figures for turf races are still a good way to find stronger and weaker fields/performances at various class levels. IMO, they are just more prone to problems."
Aren't the proposed euro figures performance figures not "speed figures". I'm not playing silly semantics, I'm interested. They mean two different things to me. For instance Timeform gave Doyen 131/124 (performance figure /speed figure) for his run in the King Edward Stakes. Five weeks later in the King George they gave Doyen 132/92 (perf/speed). i.e. All things equal after normalisation the latter race was run 16L slower than the former but was judged to yield a 1/2L better performance.
Just a thought. But is the above case similar to the smooth vs. ouchy pattern criticism that is often being levelled at TG & Rags. i.e. because they do not publish 2 separate figures like Timeform, Rags are maybe more "speedlike" and TG more "performancelike"?