Re: Arlington Million Revisited (438 Views)
Posted by:
Lucy (IP Logged)
Date: August 24, 2004 01:43AM
"Aren't the proposed euro figures performance figures not "speed figures". I'm not playing silly semantics, I'm interested. They mean two different things to me. For instance Timeform gave Doyen 131/124 (performance figure /speed figure) for his run in the King Edward Stakes. Five weeks later in the King George they gave Doyen 132/92 (perf/speed). i.e. All things equal after normalisation the latter race was run 16L slower than the former but was judged to yield a 1/2L better performance.
Just a thought. But is the above case similar to the smooth vs. ouchy pattern criticism that is often being levelled at TG & Rags. i.e. because they do not publish 2 separate figures like Timeform, Rags are maybe more "speedlike" and TG more "performancelike"?"
no.
if anything, it would be the opposite, however, the 2 are similar in schematic, it's just the manufacturing that sets them apart, and creates the chunky and creamy styles that you mentioned.
I always like to think of Rags as condition figs, because that's how I use them, but they (and jerry's reproduction) are actually 'speed' figs.
I would like to defer to george on the timeform comparison, as he is our resident foreigner, but there might not be enough invective in this discussion to catch his interest.
I'll definitely defer to jerry on the proposed euros, but my guess is that they are just the same speed figs that he's making now.
on a tangent, if jerry's going to jump in on this, I would ask if he plans on cutting races loose on the euro figs --- do turf variants change between races?