No, I don't think the icons are gone for good. But, in my handicapping days theres rarely, if ever, been a period where so many of the top names were displaced en masse by new names. Though its been a two to three year gradual process. Don't get me wrong the old men can still train. Didn't McGaughey just win a Grade I turf race with a colt out of Heavenly Prize? My point is had that colt been in the hands of the other guys, we might have seen him in the Classics, but then he might also be permenantly on the shelf as well.

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