I'm not arguing for the superiority of my own product, although that is in the end what enables me to know what the hell I'm talking about. And I'm done with this, other than to say that I suspect that it is the concept of pars that has gotten Beyer off track, any claims otherwise notwithstanding.

Do your homework, and I'm not talking about pars, any discussion of which involves an unbelievable number of givens (like, your statement that all divisions come up slow, and that they in fact are not so, and that other circuits come up differently, and so on), and WHICH IS NOT RELEVENT. You are stuck in one very narrow way of expressing things, and there are tons of others more direct that don't depend on the level of the horses affecting pars, for example. Again, look at Sunshine Millions Day. And, I would note, that following some of these debacles Andy may very well have changed some numbers, or his "pars"-- as he should have-- so they may look different now.

This conversation is of little interest to most of those who come here, and don't have to deal with the issue at all. Over and out.



TGJB