>I have no data, this was an eyeball study.

You need to get your eyes checked.

Lukas doesn't really have the client base any longer to be a big sales player and several of the Overbrooks are in the hands of former assistants Pletcher and Stewart. How has Shug been doing lately with Derby horses from all of those Phipps Blue Blood mares? Including the ones they didn't even nominate, are unraced, or the mare was barren. How about Farish? He's due.

The point being this is not a very exact science and it is a rich mans game. Baffert didn't buy the $8.0M turtle, someone else did and gave it to him. Why should it count against his record. However he started with about 50 expensive well-bred two year-olds and will end up with two Derby runners.

He probably has beaten the odds.

If The Green Monkey doesn't win the Derby next year is it Pletchers fault.