richiebee Wrote:
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> Chucko del Sol:
>
> I know this is a Derby string, and your study
> was "unscientific", but nobody is going to compare
> you to Federico Tesio if you are going to make a
> statement like "Phipps stable has made a huge
> mistake in recent years in what stallion they send
> their mares to".
>
> Somehow, despite all this mismanagement, Team
> Phipps has produced among others, Personal Ensign,
> My Flag, Storm Flag Flying, Inside Information,
> Finder's Fee, Dancing Spree, Pleasant Home, etc.
>
> The emphasis for Phipps seems to be on the
> Breeders Cup rather than the Triple Crown, on
> developing a solid broodmare band instead of some
> fast and prematurely retired stallions. Pleasant
> Home is a fine example of the Phipps emphasis on
> the distaff side; she descends from one of the
> great runners/ producers in the last 25 years,
> the great Gold Beauty (Dayjur, Maplejinsky, etc)
>
> In terms of determining who burned the most cash
> on unfulfilled Derby dreams, maybe you should look
> to the (middle) East.
>
>
>
> Edited 1 times. Last edit at 04/10/06 05:06AM by
> richiebee.

Shug or Dinny, if you're tuning in...First off let me ask you what happened to Strong Goer in 1995?

Secondly, I think its imperative that you know I can be retained for breeding advice. Line breeding, return to the sire the best blood of his dam, statiscial nicking, breed the best to the best and hope for the best...these and others have been sometimes effective recipes. However, what modern breeding requires is special insight. Theres no Fredrico Tesio now and if there was he'd be about as effective as some of the big name trainers spending huge amounts of money for brittle and short distance horses at the sales.

You did fine with Pleasant Home, but if you're honest with yourselves you have to acquiesce that things have not been going well. For instance, the last two foals of this horse were not good mating choices:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/progeny/versailles+treaty

This horse has been nicked poorly, even considering Storm Flag. Juvenile races are nice. But was this horse bred to win the Oaks and Distaff or maybe even a Triple Crown race vs. the boys?:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/progeny/my+flag2

Heres another one of your wonderful mares that has gotten a couple runners. But were they really the type of runners you're after?

http://www.pedigreequery.com/index.php?query_type=progeny&search_bar=progeny&wsid=1142716229&h=HEAVENLY%20PRIZE&filter=All+Horses&cf=&sort=&pedloggedin=0

What about the recent choices for his great mare? Monarchos? Kingambo? Unbridled was a good horse if you like them crooked.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/progeny/personal+ensign

Its fitting to end with this one Ap Indy and Dynaformer?

http://www.pedigreequery.com/progeny/finders+fee

Heres my challenge, with your pool of mares and allowed to select the stallions for all one year you will have two in the Derby and one in the Oaks. If you don't I pay you. You'd never have gotten that arrangement from Tesio.

If you think Keyed Entry is a great horse with a great chance, you won't want to retain me. If you think your single T.C. nominee has what it takes to perhaps win the Travers, you dont want me either. However, if multiple triple crown nominees are your goal and you really want to win that Derby I am available for a contigency fee, but I would be selecting the mates for the entire stable.









Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/10/2006 11:29AM by Chuckles_the_Clown2.