Don't think of yourself as a contrarian. The points you raise are good ones. Perhaps I should have made it clear that I was not suggesting that accurate nos. would not be necessary if this info becomes available. It is entirely possible that they would become more valuable, depending on how widespread the new info is & what use people make of it. My thought was that, assuming one has an open mind, it was an interesting development & that there might be instances where the new info might confirm the nos. Besides, the one thing everyone seems to agree on is that there will always be a certain amount of judgment involved, which to me is what made the recent exchange with the competition interesting, even though it was lopsided.