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Buddy Gill's grass number (1060 Views)
Posted by: TGJB (IP Logged)
Date: April 08, 2003 03:40PM

Since there have been some comments on the Rag board concerning BG's 6 1/2f turf race, let me clear some things up. The amount of "cutting loose" required to get that figure right was negligible-- there were 3 turf sprints that day, and the total spread of variants for the 3 races was 2 points, certainly no more than average for a range of variants for a day, since between small timing variances and wind gusts anyone in their right mind would allow themselves a point or so of play in either direction from a variant even if they made the (silly) assumption that track maintenance and climatic conditions had left the track (or turf) exactly the same speed for each race. My guess is that Ragozin (actually probably Friedman, I believe he does their SoCal figures) got to that crazy fast figure by tying the race to surrounding days, a dogmatic position that I have discredited in the past (most notably with the story about the overnight watering of the two Belmont grass courses on different days, but that is just one blatant example).

By the way, the figure I gave BG for that race is plenty fast enough-- it's one of the fastest grass races any 3 year old has ever run, let alone run in February. As I said in ROTW, if he stays in one piece (which now appears unlikely) he will be tough to handle on grass.

I would also point out that one of the problems with getting a figure wrong is that the problem compounds itself-- you make figures using past figure histories of the horses (all serious figure makers do, invocations of "science" notwithstanding), and bad figures in the past mean more bad figures in the future.



TGJB



Subject Written By Posted
Buddy Gill's grass number (1060 Views) TGJB 04/08/2003 03:40PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (601 Views) Marc At 04/08/2003 04:16PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (726 Views) Marc At 04/08/2003 04:30PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (679 Views) Marc At 04/08/2003 05:41PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (658 Views) TGJB 04/08/2003 05:47PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (766 Views) TGJB 04/09/2003 02:44PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (703 Views) Marc At 04/09/2003 03:58PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (667 Views) Silver Charm 04/09/2003 04:07PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (720 Views) HP 04/09/2003 04:27PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (688 Views) TGJB 04/09/2003 04:26PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (735 Views) Marc At 04/09/2003 04:31PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (767 Views) TGJB 04/10/2003 04:49PM


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