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Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (600 Views)
Posted by: Marc At (IP Logged)
Date: April 08, 2003 04:16PM

"As I said in ROTW, if he stays in one piece (which now appears unlikely) he will be tough to handle on grass."


Hmmm. Is there any race that this horse has run that would be fast enough to contribute to him having a hard time staying in one piece?

"I would also point out that one of the problems with getting a figure wrong is that the problem compounds itself-- you make figures using past figure histories of the horses (all serious figure makers do, invocations of "science" notwithstanding), and bad figures in the past mean more bad figures in the future."


I totally agree with this, but let me make one exception and one comment.

Comment: Often times when you say Ragozin has a race too fast or too slow, it seems you might be lacking a comparison of the how fast they have the rest of the horses on the card for the day the figure was run.

Exception: The least likely figures to contribute to future figure making success are figures run over an off-track, because the figure maker naturally downgrades the value of these numbers on future-figuremaking because of the track conditions-- off-tracks provide so many Xes, as well as its share of freakouts in the other direction. Yet the most consistently criticized numbers from TG or Ragozin are these off-track/drying out track numbers. Looks like rain at Aqueduct this Fri/Sat. Drying out conditions on Saturday, look out. Similarly, a one number turf-sprint jump up first time Mullins, either as a 'capper or as a figure maker, what possible impact should it have? Very little, right?



Subject Written By Posted
Buddy Gill's grass number (1060 Views) TGJB 04/08/2003 03:40PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (600 Views) Marc At 04/08/2003 04:16PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (725 Views) Marc At 04/08/2003 04:30PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (679 Views) Marc At 04/08/2003 05:41PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (658 Views) TGJB 04/08/2003 05:47PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (765 Views) TGJB 04/09/2003 02:44PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (703 Views) Marc At 04/09/2003 03:58PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (667 Views) Silver Charm 04/09/2003 04:07PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (720 Views) HP 04/09/2003 04:27PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (687 Views) TGJB 04/09/2003 04:26PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (734 Views) Marc At 04/09/2003 04:31PM
Re: Buddy Gill's grass number (766 Views) TGJB 04/10/2003 04:49PM


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