I went thru the archives for probably the last dozen derbies or so, and suprisingly a 2 gets you in the trifecta about half the time....so, if chitu did in fact run a 2 or so, his line will look good...slower but forward. And if he runs a 2 or even a 1 in lousiville, with a trip, it may take a 0 to beat him....and I am going on assumption he went forward in sunland and that he will be a huge price in kentucky.