Jim, always good to hear from you, and it would be nice if all the Raggies were as intellectually honest and open minded as you.

Losing a bet doesn't mean anyone is "wrong". I just did the race, and you were right about Gun Runner, I gave him a new top of a couple of points.

And for those using either (or any other) data who projected a forward move and cashed Arrogate, good for them, but I don't care whose figures you use, none could be used to project the figure he ran or anything close to it.