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Re: Pick 5 or Empire 6? (260 Views)
Posted by: Mathcapper (IP Logged)
Date: September 02, 2019 11:00PM

Fairmount1 Wrote:
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> Toppled:
>
> Closing day and mandatory payout day for the
> Empire. Your theory didn't hold up on this one.
> (Leg 1 a 3-5 single to just add on the front end
> of a p5 to increase the payout. Even 50 cents
> worth of the p6 let's say by simply adding the 3-5
> and paying for an equal denomination wouldn't even
> get you to the p5 payout).
>
> 1, Dr. Devera's Way.
> $.50 p5, 65,846.50
> $.20 p6, 23,794.70.
>
> I have the others also. This was the rule not the
> exception even on today's mandatory/carryover p6
> sequence for the horses in the finale compared to
> the p5.
>
> **Note**--I know you likely can't even play a 50
> cent pick 6 but wanted to attempt to compare
> apples to apples here. Mathcapper can possibly
> equate this much faster and clearer than I as well
> as correct my mistakes in statistical analysis
> here. But I don't want to put more on his plate.


No worries Richie - I track the payouts every day (it only takes me ~30s) so I've got them readily available.

In today's sequence the Pick 5 came back quite generous - the $65,846.50 payout was over 3.6 times (+265%) the equivalent win parlay of $18,058.40.

The $23,794.70 Empire 6, on the other hand, came back surprising light for a mandatory payout day. Instead of paying on the order of 4 or 5 times the equivalent win parlay like it typically does, it "only" paid around twice the equivalent win parlay (+106%) of $11,557, which is closer to what it usually looks like on a non-mandatory day.

BTW, for anyone interested, I got word back yesterday from the boss of the boss of the guy I talked to at NYRA Bets on the subject of Empire 6 bet size as it relates to lone winning tickets.

As I suspected, if a player puts in a base ticket that's larger than the $.20 minimum, say a $1 caveman ticket like 3x1x5x3x4x4 and that player turns out to be the lone winner, he DOES NOT get the jackpot, it counts as 5 separate $.20 tickets.

So if you're playing any combinations that look to have the potential to possibly take down the pool, make SURE you only have a $.20 ticket on those combinations, otherwise you're essentially playing against yourself and it could end up costing you a LOT of money.



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Re: Travers 150 Pick 5 (466 Views) toppled 08/24/2019 09:09AM
Re: Travers 150 Pick 5 (423 Views) BB 08/24/2019 09:29AM
Re: Travers 150 Pick 5 (458 Views) FrankD. 08/24/2019 09:35AM
Re: Travers 150 Pick 5 (411 Views) toppled 08/24/2019 11:04AM
Re: Travers 150 Pick 5 (240 Views) Fairmount1 09/02/2019 06:27PM
Re: Pick 5 or Empire 6? (260 Views) Mathcapper 09/02/2019 11:00PM
Re: Travers 150 Pick 5 (209 Views) johnnym 09/03/2019 07:10AM
Re: Travers 150 Pick 5 (308 Views) toppled 08/24/2019 03:18PM
Re: Travers 150 Pick 5 (425 Views) wrongly1 08/24/2019 09:25AM
Re: Travers 150 Pick 5 (483 Views) FrankD. 08/24/2019 09:39AM
Re: Travers 150 Pick 5 (320 Views) Fairmount1 08/24/2019 03:04PM
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