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Re: ROCKPORT HARBOR (428 Views)
Posted by: jimbo66 (IP Logged)
Date: November 28, 2004 07:38PM

CH,

I don't disagree with your general views on pace. But as for this race, several points:

1. You are seriously redboarding. If it
"couldn't be more obvious going in that there would be a pace meltdown", then where was your post before the race?

2. I don't think it was "obvious" that there would be a pace meltdown. Cudos to you if you saw it, but I didn't and I am guessing others didn't either. Purge was cutting back to a mile after longer races with slower paces. He figured to stalk, not be on top of the pace. Not sure who you expected to run with Pico.

3. I don't think there was a "pace meltdown". Take a look at the fractions here and compare them with other runnings of this race and races like it (Met Mile, also a one turn mile). The pace is always hot. Almost always seems "suicidal".

4. Watch the replay, Pico looked well within himself going 44 to the half. Purge was being worked on by the jockey, but Pico was within himself.

5. Michael, I guess what you are saying is that Len (Rags) had the race before for Lion Tamer much stronger than Jerry did. If so, congrats to Len. He got it right. Lion Tamer was a "throwout" on Jerry's figures. He needed a new top to even hit the tri.



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Re: ROCKPORT HARBOR (402 Views) Michael D. 11/28/2004 09:49AM
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Re: ROCKPORT HARBOR & Purge (445 Views) TGJB 11/29/2004 02:10PM
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Re: ROCKPORT HARBOR & Purge (390 Views) TGJB 11/29/2004 03:44PM
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Re: ROCKPORT HARBOR & Purge (431 Views) TGJB 11/29/2004 04:31PM
Re: ROCKPORT HARBOR (394 Views) Michael D. 11/28/2004 10:17AM
Re: ROCKPORT HARBOR (443 Views) marcus 11/28/2004 11:39AM
Re: ROCKPORT HARBOR (421 Views) big ant 11/28/2004 10:54AM
Re: ROCKPORT HARBOR (434 Views) jimbo66 11/28/2004 11:29AM
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