Alydar, you stole the thought right out of my head before I even had a chance to write it...

Jason L said: "But at least with Ragozin, I have some comfort that the numbers are based on a consistent scientific foundation and not one person's opinion."

As Alydar already said, there is no scientific basis for assuming a track stays the same for an entire card, even under "normal" conditions. This is just one man's opinion, nothing the least bit scientific about it.

In fact, a hypothesis that tracks do change daily carries MORE scientific weight. Are you saying there is no such thing as evaporation? Or that water trucks are always able to replenish the EXACT same amount of water between races that has evaporated since the last watering? That the exact same amount of moisture is introduced every time the track is harrowed? To me, this is sceintifically ridiculous, expecting that to all stay the same. So much for your "scientific" argument.

I swear, some of these raggies need to go back and take debate classes, provide facts with your arguments, not opinions or rhetoric! Here are some of my other recenet faves:

TG: Delaware valley numbers on rags are too slow. (3 examples from preakness day sited)
Patent: No they aren't, I make money with them all the time (no examples sited)

Hmmmm, who is more credible here?

(?? on sheets board): Why are TG and sheets numbers so different?
Jim: Because TG is a "knockoff" product. (no factual backup provided)

And raggies are less prone to personal attacks? You have got to be kidding me. JB is right, more raggies that post here the better. They show a fine example of the caliber of people using their product.