Holybull,

Congrats on liking Giacomo.

But your line about him being one of the most likely to run a new top is funny at best. Yes, he was likely to run a new top, because he was the 19th fastest out of 20 horses and the only horse in the field to still have NOT ran faster as a 3 year old, than he did as a 2 year old.

So, yes, he could run faster and was even "likely" to do so. I wouldn't have called him the favorite to come in last, Spanish Chestnut and Going Wild were those. But Giacomo, because he was so so slow, was a very very unlikely winner.

Maybe you think it is sour grapes on my part, but this horse was not "handicappable" to win the DErby by any normal method.

I was with 6 guys at the Meadowlands and two had the horse and cashed - no joke. But neither would tell you that they handicapped the race.

One italian guy "wheeled the two italian horses for $1". Bandini and Giacomo.

The other guy had $10 on Giacomo because his name was "John" and he was told Giacomo was italian for John.