Re: Razzle and the other board (612 Views)
Posted by:
TGJB (IP Logged)
Date: September 06, 2005 05:04PM
Raz--
1-- I sent the e-mail before you posted on THIS board, but I sent it in RESPONSE to your personal attacks a few days earlier on the Ragozin board. Don't play games.
2-- Okay, I'll play. EXACTLY what point of view am I not acknowledging? Spell out EXACTLY what I have not addressed, and I will.
When you do, also show me the "acknowledgment" by Friedman of the beaten lengths error I demonstrated they made in the 04 Derby, ground loss errors about TOTB in the BC Mile, and others in this year's Florida Derby, etc.. Also show his "acknowledgment" of my lawyers letter, posted here after being sent to them with a transcript of two taped conversations with Ragozin employees (one from their office) telling a potential customer we didn't have trackmen doing ground loss, and telling them to knock it off. Also his "acknowledgment" of my arguments about changing track speeds, and all the evidence I provided, much of it from scientists who had actually studied track surfaces.
Failing that, show me any indication you reproached him for not "acknowledging" my public points. Because that's a big thing with you.
3-- Ah yes, the issue of intellectual integrity, and taking false credit. Tell me EXACTLY what you want me to "acknowledge". When you do, show me where you took Friedman to task for his false claim that Lava Man was claimed off their data (see article in the L.A. Times, where Steve Kenly said he claimed it using ours, over the objections of someone using Ragzoin). Also for Jake's false claim of Ragozin involvement with the management of Musique Toujours, proven false in two publications.
Show me where Friedman acknowledged ANY of this, even after they got caught lying publicly.
To say nothing of Ragozin NEVER giving any credit or ACKNOWLEDGING those who made figures long before him, incorporating wind, ground, weight etc. Or giving credit to Connie Merjos, for explaining to him about run-ups, and showing Len how to get live (as opposed to airport) wind, and live (as opposed to from chart) ground, and clock from the gate using a run-up chart. None of which Connie invented-- he got it all from earlier generations of figure makers.
I must have missed the part where they ACKNOWLEDGED all of that, or you called them on not doing so. Again, because that's a big thing with you
But go for it. Tell me specifically what you want me to acknowledge.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/06/2005 05:52PM by TGJB.